Wednesday, August 19, 2015

How to Sooth an Intense Twilight, Edward Cullen, Robert Pattinson and/or 'robsten' Obsession and Still Move Forward in Your Life

Update 8/28/15 - Okay, mean 'robsessed' girls... YOU do not need to send me emails about how you are okay in your 'anti-twilight' obsessions while at the same time butchering Kristen Stewart. I'm sorry, that girl did NOT 'ruin' anything; NOR is it her fault that so many people accidentally became overly-obsessed with her and/or Robert Pattinson.

An obsession is an obsession. You can either utilize this information and feel better; or not - the choice is your's.
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This post was created for absolutely everyone who struggles with a Twilight (or anti-twilight - yes!!) obsession - even the mean girls - because so many of them simply do not realize what they are doing and/or cannot stop themselves. Strong obsessions are hard for most people to control, no matter what they are obsessing over.

This post is designed to help obsessing fans feel better - NOT 'get rid of' an obsession. Most fans do not want it to go away, they just want a little more control in their lives and/or to feel better about it. Because no, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a Twilight obsession if you have one. You'll see why if you keep reading.

...And besides, the obsession will drift away slowly, eventually - like it is supposed to. That is inevitable. But, how to manage it while it is so strong and still move forward in your life? That is the burning question... :)

This is going to seem like a long-winded ramble. But, trust me, I've been there ahead of you and made it! If you are struggling with an intense obsession over Twilight, Edward Cullen, Bella Swan, Kristen Stewart or Robert Pattinson... You are not alone or unusual; and a long, slow read is probably better for your brain. Just take this one line/word/paragraph at a time and save it to return to later if you need it.

I am including a current email from a mom in this beginning so you can see how fans are (still) dealing with their obsessions. No one is talking about this stuff – you’ll hear the typical reason why fans don’t talk about it in this exchange.

This is a reply to a question that shoots off from the reviews of Twilight on Amazon. There are over six thousand replies to this question, most of them similar to this one. Read more if you need more convincing.

For so many Twihards - past & present - Twilight obsessions are NOT 'normal' obsessions.

"I feel just crazy. My poor family!! I can't even count how many times I've read the first two. And yes, what little of Midnight Sun is available, I've read twice. At first, I thought reading it from Edward's perspective would finally settle my obsession - because I realized the second (or was it third?!) time I read Twilight that I was re-reading just trying to figure out what Edward was thinking. But then of course, Midnight Sun isn't finished - so I'm still left wondering. And then of course I'm hoping she'll do the same thing for the other titles. I'm reading New Moon today - and keep wondering what's going on in Edward's mind."

NEWS FLASH... NEWS FLASH... NEWS FLASH... Not everything is about "our obsession" - MOST of your obsessions out there are FINEIt's the pain that comes from seeing your favorite fairytale and favorite actress and actor being so tormented by your own Twihard Sisters and the world that is harsh.

Aside from the issues surrounding Twilight's celebrities, many fans are simply dealing with 'missing' more Twilight, especially since Bdp2 is over. For still others, your obsessions kind of crossover into a grey area in between.

It would be so helpful if Summit / Lionsgate could come up with a continuing series or something - if they could manage to 'do it right'. Twihard fans didn't deserve to have their favorite fairytale ruined by Hollywood's celebrity-lifebashing ways. The likelihood of the studio finding a way to continue this series before the scandal happened was probably pretty high. Twilight had been nothing but profitable up to that point.

Here is one of my original posts about Twilight obsessions (don't read this, yet - you'll come to it again); and why so many fans of ALL AGES - and especially older women - became so addicted. This gives us all a reason to forgive overly-obsessing Twihards & Anti-Twihards out there who just CAN'T seem to get a grip on reality. This alone has made many fans feel better - just knowing why some people got so 'crazy'. This post also includes a link to every other post or article I have written about the subject of Twilight addictions, because this is where it all started. It was written one month after the misogynistic 'cheating' scandal, August 2012.

In fact, as a contrast to the 'mom' email, below - here is a response from a young fan to the above post; and yes, I still receive emails like this: “…Thank you for writing that wonderful blog.. it was heaven sent. …Please someone tell him. He just texted me and said he told my mom..and for me to get some help..and bye..please tell him..everyone is doing this and its killing me..but everybody acts like they don’t know what im talking about..I think I may have never needed anything so bad in all of my life than for somebody to tell him..I know they are trying to drive me crazy..and its starting to work… thanks again, was truly a blessing I needed to read..very much so :)”

If you’re wondering WHY a fan of ‘robsten’ would say such nice things to me – again, she isn’t the only one – it’s because I did a lot of ‘forgiving’ and ‘explaining’ about what was ACTUALLY going on at the beginning of the ‘cheating’ scandal. Yeah, I was one of those strange people who was feeling really sorry for Twilight’s hurting fangirlz.


This is actually a very normal-sounding email for me to receive; and often from a mom and/or older grandma. But not always, teenagers are smarter than us all concerning this issue - and frankly, those are the intimidating emails to get. *I* had BETTER 'have my sh*t straight' because there is no fury like an obsessed teenage girl scorned!!! I am not even SORT of afraid of you mean older chicks who like to accuse me of having a crush on Kristen, LoL! ;)

I have condensed this email exchange (in places) to make it shorter:

to: Catherine Mostly "auntmisfitchick@gmail.com"
date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 9:21 PM
subject: Re: Twilight Blog

I read your blog post on Twilight addiction and it really spoke to me. I really do need some advice on my own situation.

After years of mocking Twilight and their fans, I saw the movies featured on Netflix and I thought "why not". I clicked on Twilight and I absolutely loved it. I then went to watch the other movies and loved it even more... Any spare moment I get on my iPad and watch it. I can't stop.

I feel like I can't talk about this to my friends. I am a 20-something, single mother with a Masters in Business and I'm obsessing like a teenage girl over a guy she doesn't really know. Feel like I'm going insane here. I am addicted to Twilight.

Please, if you have any advice on getting over my Twilight addiction I would be ever so grateful!

My Response:

…sure the obsession is fun for awhile - but what about your real life later on when it is so hard to get past? Some ladies/girls haven't been able to do that, yet – and for some them, it’s been years (since before the movies).

I'm not sure if you have read the post I wrote about how to get over Twilight. Here it is in case you haven't. Yeah, it's long-winded, but it has helped some people. I don't hear from everyone, of course.

The most constructive advice I have - and you will see this in that post; is that you kind of just need to keep letting yourself glide through it for awhile. Since you can't turn obsessions on/off like a light switch - and we are NOT talking about an addiction as dangerous as meth - it is okay to take the long way around.

It's okay, because most of us - I can't speak for everyone, of course - are taking these characters and this story and 'doing what we want' with them, now. This is semi-healthy fantasy play that has the potential to help you realize some of your own dreams and maybe even how to attain them.

What are you doing with the characters? What are you often talking about in their conversations? Where are you trying to make them go... Those are the important questions. The obsession 'can' just be used as a tool instead of an obstruction in your life.

No, I'm not a therapist... I've just been through a lot of different kinds of obsessions, ha!

Relax. Your mind is fixated because there is something about it that you miss - or want - or need, etc. You'll figure it out; and when you don't need it anymore... Weeeeeeeeeeee. ;)

Does that help, at all? You are welcome to go on and on... Sometimes the vent helps a lot, too.

Thanks for writing. You're going to be fine. You are fine. :)
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to: Catherine Mostly "auntmisfitchick@gmail.com"

date: Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 8:02 PM
subject: Re: Twilight Blog

Thank you so much for the reply. I have tried speaking to my good friend about my obsession and, as with all of my friends, doesn't like Twilight and totally judged me lol so your feedback means a lot. Yes I do feel for the die hard fans who have been there from the beginning... I read one post where one middle aged married woman had damaged her relationship with her children and got divorced because of her Twilight obsession!

Yes you're right, on the obstruction and using it as a tool. Asking those questions are important. I am a really visual/logical person and the story depicted the emotions visually to the point where it captured my fantasy on my wishful thinking. Made me feel like I was an innocent girl, minus all the life experience of hurt and distrust gained from previous relationships. I saw the feelings a person can have from love. I have a love hate relationship with thinking logically and indulging in the fantasy Twilight brings out in me emotionally is like a drug to me.

I struggled with confidence in the past and thought of myself as ordinary, being attracted to "bad boys" who were mainly deadbeats but I thought they were amazing. I'm now trying to detach myself as Bella: the clumsy, country girl mesmerised by this perfect guy who treated/respected her like a goddess and had golden eyes with skin that shone like diamonds; Then to go on to have adventures and excitement after meeting Edward. That feeling of acceptance, love, belonging and family.

I'm trying to visualise myself as a metaphoric vampire with all the positive things that makes them unique (and the upperclass lifestyle); and that I can gain all the above and the feelings/mindset by being proactive in getting those things for myself... Someone has to do the groundwork to get from A to B. Even in the fantasy - it didn't happen from wishful thinking... 

Easier said than done, of course.

I don't know if this perspective is more of a "tool" or not... Or more helpful Character metaphor in approaching my addiction.... What do you think from your experience?
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Previous Blog Excerpt: One of the really nifty things about obsessions and fantasies is that they are very personal and organic things. They can be started, then stopped and recreated over and over again in our minds whenever we need them to change.

If you don't like how any one fantasy is going, rethink it... Do it over again... What would YOU do with these pretty Twilight characters if Stephenie Meyer's dream had been YOUR dream...

This is helpful fantasy play because now you are taking these characters where you want them to go - instead of Stephenie. YOU are Bella now... or Alice or Rosalie or Esme or one of their amazing Cullen husbands. ;)

And what about you team Jacob fans... Surely you could come up with a better love story for Jacob and Bella?

My Email Response:

The first thing my brain started doing after watching the first Twilight movie was to rewrite both Bella and Edward in my mind - cuz they were both so shallow and easy to rewrite. I didn't 'quite' like either character, but I really wanted to, ha! (I will also add that I LOVED the character of Alice and didn't change a single thing about her. ;)

[Insert: Btw, I was just re-reading this post from before the cheating scandal; and it is specifically-directed at 'clueless' and young fans. I didn't realize at the time, that I was also giving advice on how to get past a Twilight obsession (at the end) - but, I pretty much tell them the same thing that I tell the TwiMom in this email exchange.

Maybe since it is written in a different way; you'll be able to 'get' this perspective if the one below seems too weird - or maybe a combo of the two would work best.]

The fantasy took off from there in several different directions - I have yet another blog about those fantasies that popped up. Some of them are kind of good in my opinion. :) http://adifferenttwilight.blogspot.com/ I even rewrote Twilight 'believably' so that people could see that could have been done.

Yeah, I was seriously addicted for awhile and mad about it, to boot, ha! It's not like you can unwatch something or reclaim wasted time.

In fact, this is the most hysterical (and probably bravest) thing I have ever done... I made a video for Stephenie Meyer calling her out (actually, I made four videos). I did these videos at the very height of my own obsession - before I 'rewrote' anything; before I had ever heard of '50 Shades of Grey'; and before Kristen Stewart's stupid 'cheating' scandal...

The above blog, A Different Twilight, was my way 'out' of my obsession. I did not start to climb out until I started writing that blog (and again, I did the 'mean obsession videos' before I started writing).

I had to be talked into watching Twilight the first time because *I* was not even SORT of interested in the concept of 'sparkling vampires'. For years, I just thought, oh well... this is the vampire thing of this generation. I already had Buffy and Interview with the Vamp along with many other vampire faves - I wasn't even curious about Twilight.

I've been all kinds of obsessed with different things throughout my life - people, shows, characters, etc; but I have never had an obsession hit me so hard so fast. That is why I started researching The Twilight Saga and how it was written... I was like, wtf?!!

I'm not addicted anymore; and have been looking back on it for at least two years, now - what a stupid, wild ride. I am someone who 'naturally' lives much more in their heads; and for people like me, getting out of that deep of an obsession seemed damn near impossible.

It was like quicksand - the more I fought it and tried to 'get out'; the more I sank.

But, I'm still here and can look back on it now with nothing less than a profound set of the giggles if I start thinking about it too much. I really could just giggle about it to high heaven while cussing Stephenie Meyer out up one side and down the other at the same time, LoL!

I don't know if you have read my stuff on 'why' we are all got so unusually-addicted to this series - but that is why, because of the too-shallow characters & storyline. Most of us have Bella re-written in our heads to be 'more like us'; or at least, someone we would like to be. (More explanation about that in here - Why do so many people hate Bella Swan and/or Kristen Stewart)

That is why I suggested that you continue to 'glide' through your obsession for a while longer... 

You are thinking about that character as 'Bella'; but the obsession is so strong because the line between her and you is probably a lot more thin than you realize. You've probably done things to 'personalize' Bella. For instance, *I* made her a writer. (I was also trying to get Edward and the Cullens to build her a ship to take her into space because I'm such a scifi nut, LoL!)

Change her name and make her 'you' - it would be the same difference. HOWEVER, maintaining a division between the two like that is a good thing. Some ladies literally cannot separate themselves from Bella in their minds, yet - especially people who also read the books; but 'just' movie fans can have problems with this, too. 

Some of us are just more susceptible to falling into fictional obsessions than others - just like some people have an easier time falling into 'actual' drugs. You are right, a Twilight addiction is a drug - hands down, no-doubt.

Obsessions like this create the emotional highs that we crave like a heroine addict craves the way heroine makes them feel. And, make no mistake, this addiction is just as hard to get past - it just doesn't (usually) manifest in ways that makes us change our lives considerably or cause us to die.

Plus, we can't help it for a while; and it is silly... is it any wonder that we get made fun of?

In order to use your fantasies to get out of the obsession; the variations that come up in your mind (my mind, anyway) seemed like steps. I think because we are meshing the obsession with real life - the real life 'thread' kind of acts like a rope to help us pull ourselves out.

Plus again, can help us realize stuff about ourselves that we needed to know.

I don't mean that we take the time to sit down and actually 'rewrite' Bella, of course - but, we have variations of subtle (and sometimes major) alterations about her and/or Edward that make us like her better. For instance, *my* Bella doesn't have to beg Edward for anything; and he isn't saving her over and over again because she's a weak human.

When we make the fantasy / obsessions 'ours' instead of Stephenie's (that's what it originally was); then it seems easier to pull ourselves out and learn from it. You can even go so far as to use the characters as 'imaginary friends' as long as you need them in your real life. That isn't 'being crazy' - that is being extremely creative in using your imagination to get you out of a potent addiction.

I cannot tell you how many long, ridiculous conversations I've had with Edward Cullen about anything and everything. That is one aspect of the 'universal female fantasy' that Stephenie captured very well - we LIKE our fantasy men to be interested in what we are saying, no matter what, ha!

I hope all that makes sense. When talking about obsessions while not being an official therapist - sometimes things are hard to explain. :)

date:     Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 8:04 PM
subject:                Re: Twilight Blog

Hi Catherine,

I really took in what you said, and gaining an understanding of why people get addicted to twilight based on how it was written has helped. There were many things about the characters I didn't quite like: and based on what you explained, I understand why I never 'fully' imagined myself as Bella and related to her personality/character.... Much like you said: " Bella doesn't have to beg Edward for anything; and he isn't saving her over and over again". That sort of annoys me about Bella.

I'm not a fan of how Stephanie depicted vampires of 'sparkling ' either, as this is like Bella idolizes Edward etc and it's a bit kind of tacky for vampires. I think Stephanie could have been a little bit more creative with that as its represents ALL vampires... I mean, I don't know about you, but I can't really see antagonists like Aro or Laurant sparkling like diamonds and being 'beautiful '.

So totally get what you explained about rewriting to be more like us or who we want to be.
The way I want to rewrite and 'improve' Bella is who I am and how I want people to see me. I believe that I'm a naturally 'free spirited' person, who likes to be in control of my own life, career oriented, value friendship and need time to myself... So I would want to rewrite edward too.

Edward is very controlling, he is so dedicated to the relationship to the point of nothing else matters... and he is oft protective. He would be a prime candidate for a restraining order! Haha.

I've read online of girls addicted to twilight and some have mentioned that they look for guys 'like' Edward. Whereas I'm addicted to twilight but I don't like everything about Edward so would rewrite him based on what 'I' like. We put ourselves in twilight and not just 'go along on the ride' like you would in LOTR or Star Wars.... Yeah, that Stephanie knows how to suck us girls in! XD

I was beginning to 'write' another character in 'my' twilight... I was toying around with the idea of this character meeting Edward during the period when Edward first became a vampire, when he was killing these murderers and maybe involving the Volturi more...

As I was creating this character and Upon analysis, She has traits like me/who I want to be. I even make her look similar to me. So essentially I'm investing myself even more into the film. I don't know if this is a great thing because there isn't a "division " like you said.

I'm the same as you in the sense of living in my own head (closeted huge nerd).... I'm a fan of RPG games and create back stories for my characters and join game communities to role play lol. I even created an entire history on a race in Elderscrolls (RPG adventure/fantasy game)! That obsession has died down a bit now given I have done every single quest in the game lol

Oh btw, I love the idea of the Cullens in outer space!!! XD

My Response:

LoL! Nah, you got it right, you don't need anymore 'division' - it's just that some people really do need one, ya know? I was actually really into creating a silly parallel universe with a second Bella and Edward who would somehow collide with the originals and 'explain how everything should be', LoL! It got pretty funny sometimes. :)

I have always heard that Edward is very controlling in their relationship, but I never read the books all the way through yet - so I don't have that part in my head. You can sure see how 50 Shades of Grey came about, though. The first time I heard that Twilight had inspired fanfiction like that I laughed so hard. Really - tears down my cheeks and everything, ha!

And honestly, I think taking Bella into space would have been a great idea. Steph really missed out on that one. ;)

It sounds like you are feeling better. Good.

If you're as hooked as I was on this story.... Again, you might even need to take the characters with you in your everyday life and treat them as you would imaginary friends for as long as you need them. They can actually help iron out the most ridiculous things (especially Alice, ha!) when you are talking to them/yourself.

Btw, I'm a HUGE gamer girl nerd from the way back - I used to play Ultima Online ages ago and currently play in Stronghold Kingdoms MMO. It's not nearly the same as UO, nor as 'social' - but there is something about it that I like.

You're probably not in the mood for anything but amber eyes, beautiful music and flying through the treetops... That's Okay, it's not like real life is much more 'real' than the imaginary escapes we take. And I believe they can and do inspire us to seek the things we find fascinating about them in our actual real lives (eventually).

No, I haven't found my rl Edward yet and I will probably never make it into space, ha! But dreams can lead us to real happiness - if there is such a thing. And if nothing else, you'll be in a much better place in the future for people to understand this unusual perspective. For instance, when your daughter goes through this (and you know she will, ha!); you'll probably be a better mom about it.

I get letters from obsessed young girls who cannot talk to their moms about this - or anyone else that they know around them - because they get made fun of and/or told that they 'need help' (We kind of get that right? Ha!). And of course, some fans are hung up on Kristen Stewart and some hate her, now - yet another division among friends & family.

And it's all so silly so it doesn't get taken seriously... These obsessions really are quite funny and heartbreaking at the same time.

Thanks so much for writing, S. It always makes me feel better if I can help someone feel even a little bit better - kind of like a steam vent, maybe. I know I wish I had had one. If it helps you get back to focusing on the things you really love (like your little girl) faster; then it is totally worth it. *I* spent waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time spinning through this bs the hard way - by trying to ignore it and push it out of my head. That is just not possible for some of us. :)

Peace.

Catherine
auntmisfitchick@gmail.com

August 2012, one month after the ‘cheating’ scandal started; and yes, I still receive emails like this: “…Thank you for writing that wonderful blog.. it was heaven sent. …Please someone tell him. He just texted me and said he told my mom..and for me to get some help..and bye..please tell him..everyone is doing this and its killing me..but everybody acts like they don’t know what im talking about..I think I may have never needed anything so bad in all of my life than for somebody to tell him..I know they are trying to drive me crazy..and its starting to work… thanks again, was truly a blessing I needed to read..very much so :)”
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How to get past Robert Pattinson / Edward Cullen & Kristen Stewart / Bella Swan

Some Fangirlz are especially flailing over Robert Pattinson and/or Kristen Stewart because of the ongoing tabloids assaults against them. Plus, it can be really hard for some people to separate the actors from their favorite characters.

But, the scandals are long over - no more judgments; it's time to figure out how to move on. It's NOT LIKE Kristen Stewart is actually Bella Swan; and she already has a happy ending conveniently written out for her - nor does Robert, for that matter.

This is what I told one TwiLady (who turned out to be a grandma) who was feeling like she was too-hung-up on Robert and feeling awfully sorry for him.You can also apply this to KRISTEN if she is the one you are hung up on...

"Do you have any other Robert Pattinson movies to watch other than Twilight? Try to forget about Kristen and what she did for awhile, that will be easier to do if you're watching Rob in something else. Then watch another movie of his and then another one - watch them over. Watch him until he isn't Edward Cullen and/or Kristen Stewart's victimized boyfriend to you anymore.

He's a very talented, beautiful guy who pours himself into every character he takes on. That takes internal STRENGTH and emotional fortitude - along with one hell of an imagination. He's DYNAMIC with REAL Human feelings, ideas and interests BEYOND even Kristen Stewart and certainly US, ha!

Don't wonder about "what he's like" as his Human self - wonder about things like, "How was that character created? Who created him and why? How would Robert Pattinson prepare for a scene like that"?

I saw the movie Cosmopolis (this is my movie review - LOVED it!!), and I wondered that about the "strut" he did through the alley - he HAD to have practiced that, ha!

IF you can dislodge your CURRENT perspective about him into something more realistic - you SHOULD be able to watch Twilight: Breaking Dawn Part 1 and Part 2 alot sooner without all that extra static going on inside of you; PLUS, it will probably make all the other movies he does more enjoyable for you because you'll be seeing HIM 'as whomever' - not just as Edward Cullen. ;)

It's almost like both he and Kristen are "too real" to us because we know so much about their personal lives. Take him back into your obscure fantasy world and let him become the fantasy guy he was once again - WITHOUT "who he REALLY is" weighing in on things.

Because NONE of us will EVER get close enough to him to get to know the real Robert Pattinson - and frankly, we probably wouldn't want to get to know him like that. Because when people go from being a fantasy to 'real' Human to us - that's when we lose our magical fantasy ideals surrounding them and they become "just like us" - not NEARLY as interesting, ha!

And the MAGIC that comes from him is JUST as REAL as the facts. So many of us have LOST that magic through this PR assault. Some peeps need to find a way to let it go, and SOME (maybe you) need to find a way to reconfigure it cuz it isn't going to go ANYWHERE.

Perhaps you cherish it too much. Nothing AT ALL wrong with that. :)" 

Need More?
and why so many fans of ALL AGES - and especially older women -
became so addicted.  This post also includes a link to every other
post or article I have written about the subject; because this is where it all started.
This was written one month after the misogynistic 'cheating' scandal, August 2012.
This post gives us all a REASON to FORGIVE overly-obsessing
Twihards & Anti-Twihards who just CAN'T seem to get a grip on reality. :)

Sunday, March 1, 2015

TOS Star Trek Fan Tribute to Leonard Nimoy & Spock

It almost goes without saying, now - and yet, it probably can't be said enough:

Live Long and Prosper
and
Peace, and Long Life

Leonard Nimoy achieved those things as equally in his Human life as his Vulcan alter-ego, Spock, did - everyone keeps saying it; both those who knew him and those of us who only knew about him.

There isn't really much to say beyond those things; but as a fan who already misses him, terribly... There is one more thing that I would add to all those condolences:

Leonard Nimoy showed us that 'dreaming' is important... And he did it through a non-human character who didn't believe in silly Human things like emotions, feelings and attachments, etc.

How damn cool is that?

This is probably the best scene EVER out of all Star Trek series and movies - TOS and spawn, combined: Captain Kirk, Bones and Spock in a campfire round of 'Row, Row, Row Your Boat'.

Truly a scene that should be recorded somewhere as being one of the best movie scenes of all time!



And then later... they finally perfected it. ;)


 

Thank you so much for all the wonderful memories, Mr. Nimoy!!

Friday, February 13, 2015

Comments from The World Regarding 50 Shades of Grey & The Twilight Saga

Brilliant!

Someone wrote me an email to suggest that I add a place for people to make comments to this intro & blog. Sorry, people don't usually leave comments on these blog, anymore. Most of them seem to prefer my email for a private chat. But, I would LOVE to get a real conversation going about this subject. I guess it doesn't hurt to put this up here.

Okay, world... what do you think?

Saturday, December 27, 2014

How Intentionally Harmful is the Tabloid, Hollywood Life (and other tabloids), to Twilight's Various Fanbases?

Robert Pattinson's Rover Smear was
Intentionally Career-Hindering
not Entertaining.
Ever Re-Unite?
This is up here just for
heartbroken fans.

Yes, this starts out MEAN and LONG because the original post had to be updated a couple of times due to HATERS - but, it was my responding to haters that made me realize the NEW current smear campaign going on. If you stick it out, you might be surprised what comes out of this. I've marked for you where the lightbulb came on.

This is really funny... I didn't realize what was going on with Robert Pattinson's Rover Smear UNTIL Hollywood Life cut me off in their comments at the beginning of it; and I didn't realize that there was a BRAND NEW smear happening UNTIL they cut me off this time again.

Thank you Hollywood Life!!!

Now, If I could JUST get fans to CARE about it... LoL!
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Okay, this post has been up for less than an hour and I've already received three hate emails. It never ceases to amaze me what cowards some 'fans' are. You're so willing to bombard the boards with your hate - but you can't express it in a blog's comments? Thanks for taking the time to FIND my email and send me such hateful BULLSH*T!!!

These collected articles and comments (below) were just the tip of the iceberg. I'm SO SICK of being accused of 'hating on fans'. It just goes to show you how much you do NOT pay attention.

So I guess I'll get started on my bombardment campaign against Stephenie Meyer and EL James' upcoming bs.

Cya's all laters.

TA! ;)
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I'm adding this up here after the fact, because believe it or not - I'm still getting emails from (mostly) haters, but also a couple normal-sounding fans, now. (But now it's the day after and emails have almost ceased - from this post, anyway. Thank you.)

I know, it's kind of funny... It's almost like you all decided that you need to shut up because I figured something out while ranting at you, LoL! Do you have any idea how incredibly frustrating the majority of you fangirlz are to me? It's Okay, all I can do is giggle about it, now. :)

I've heard this FOUR times in the past two hours... What do you mean by 'Twilight's various fanbases'? Many 'robsessed' fans, especially - do not consider themselves to be a part of The Twilight Fansbase AT ALL. For instance, did you KNOW that many of these girls - both young and older - are ANTI-Twilight fans AND it is where the majority of Kristen-haters come from?

There is no other movie that Robert Pattinson has done that would have caused all this hate. I mean, SURE the boy is BEAUTIFUL - but he's not that obsessively captivating in his own right. Certainly not more than Travis Fimmel or Leo DiCaprio. (Don't take this the wrong way, *I* love Robert Pattinson's acting (I have nothing but glowing reviews for ALL the Twilight actors & actresses in this post); but he's not quite perfect at it, yet. This is my movie review of Cosmopolis - NINE out of Ten Stars!! IF you want to see what a NON-robsessed semi-normal fan of Rob's has to say about his acting.)

Do NOT tell me that I am not a fan of Robert's or Kristen's OR their REAL fans who are spread out among ALL - Twilight - Robsessed - Robsten - Krisbian fanbases!!

And btw, robsessed fans... If you LOVE Robert so much; WHY do you continue to celebrate all the massive paparazzi image captures of him that you KNOW he despises? Some fans you are...

LB Posted at 12:04 AM on December 24, 2014  
@Holidays He is doing no such thing–never, not once. He has said not one word about his relationship, nor has he ever posed for paparazzi pictures. It’s not the man’s fault if his picture gets taken when he’s out in public. His picture is ALWAYS taken, either by fans or paparazzi. His only way to avoid that would be to hide inside 24 hours a day, and no one should have to do that.

I also included some suggestions at the end JUST in case the tabloids need something VALID to talk about Kristen Stewart in the same article as Robert Pattinson and FKA Twigs these days. Yeah, it COULD be done without stirring up HATE!!! Here's one:

Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart,
 
Who Have Remained Friends
Since Breaking Up in May 2013 - Attend Hollywood Film Awards;
While Once Again, Putting on a United Front to Avoid Each Other
in order to Eliminate Paparazzi Money-Making Images of them
together and Keep Tabloid Speculation about them to a Minimum

LIGHTBULB ON!!!

Honestly, if they had put on a show for the papz & tabloids; fans probably wouldn't be seeing all these ridiculous rumor-lies going on now. It's like Robert's Rover Smear...

If they won't cooperate to help make paparazzi & tabloids money; then they will find their own career-hindering ways to make money off of them and 'teach them a lesson'. Tabloids have to find a way to make money off of them WHEN their names ‘naturally’ come up in the news – like awards shows or FKA Twigs being in the picture, now. But, Robert was being an *ss to the paparazzi toward the beginning of Twigs’ tour; so they probably decided to photo-bomb his relationship like the jerks they are – ALONG with telling all these dumb stories to go along with them. And aren’t they extra good at it…

Kristen p*ssed them off at the HFA, too; and they get to EASILY drag her through the mud again while dragging Tahliah through it with her. BRILLIANT!! I mean, does anyone here REALLY believe that Kristen Stewart told anyone 'out loud' at a party that FKA Twigs was 'FUGLY'?! WHO is trying to convince us of that bs and WHY would they do it?!!

This would be the FIFTH major tabloid smear (at least, with smaller ones in between that sort of connect them all) campaign against one or the other of them since the 'cheating' scandal - which IS pretty much collectively-debunked by clear-thinking fans below.

#1 Twisting the 'Cheating' Scandal - they were both hated by the tabloids and paparazzi to begin with because they have never willingly contributed to their 'livelihoods' outside of The Twilight Saga. PLUS, those damn kids refused to WALK DOWN THE RED CARPET together and/or pose together at Cannes at EITHER of their movie premieres mere weeks before the 'cheating' scandal happened. The papz & rags have ALWAYS been poor sports about not getting the money-making images they want out of them.
#2 Jan. 2013 'Trial Separation' Lies - Kristen STILL refused to walk up that damn red carpet with Robert so the papz could get some good Hollywood 'couple' pics of them together all decked out at the Golden Globes
#3 Oct 2013 - Feb. 2014 'Reuniting' Lies - After neither of them attended a couple papz-promotional red-carpet events that they usually did. They even won an award at one of them; SHAME on them for not showing up!
#4 Robert's Rover Smear after he p*ssed them off at Cannes.
#5 Now this one after they attended the Hollywood Film Awards and didn’t put on a show for them. (Remember Ian & Nina's after-breakup kiss at one of the awards shows last year? Awww... If only Rob & Kris would have been so generous.)

Is anyone else starting to notice a pattern?!!
________________________

I'll start this off with a few 'sensible' comments. Perhaps these will make this easier for you to read:

@ JUju Posted at 3:27 AM on December 25, 2014
Obviously, no-one is blabbing. HWLife just has to come up with a new story or two every day, so they make stuff up. We know it. They know we know it. It’s just a game to keep us commenting.

@ Jainj. Posted at 3:31 AM on December 26, 2014  
Have sex? Are you kidding? They had one kiss, as the beginning of the afternoon, and then never another . According to the paps, they spent most of the afternoon driving around talking, and about seven minutes standing on the sidewalk on a busy residential street in the Hollyiwood hills, with Rupert’s arms around Kristen. She didn’t even hug him back. She kept her face turned away the whole time so he couldn’t kiss her again. That was IT! Have sex, my foot!. The tabs called it cheating, they called it an affair, they called it infidelity, to snooker you into thinking that little episode was the sex scandal of the century and get you to buy magazines and give them hits. And like  an idiot, you did.

Oh yeah, all tabloids do this stuff... Maybe you're someone who believes that these articles (listed below) were actually meant to bring GOOD CHEER to fans for Christmas.

Actually, I'm pretty happy with how this post turned out. With the comments collected at the end, FANS themselves, do a really good job of debunking just about every dumb conspiracy theory that anyone - even the tabloids - have come up with, ha! So, you don't have to believe ME anymore. :)

Why are all these tabloid rumor-lies wrong? Because it’s been over two and a half YEARS and the tabloids are still attacking Kristen Stewart, especially. Honestly, EVEN IF she had ACTUALLY had a REAL, extended affair with Rupert Sanders – these assaults should have STOPPED a long damn time ago. Fans have been dealing with them for LONGER than Tiger Woods and Arnold Schwarzenegger’s REAL and MULTIPLE adulterous offenses COMBINED.

Kristen didn’t deserve all the hate back then – and neither does Robert (nor Twigs) deserve the combined HATE of fans, now. The tabloids have NO RIGHT to continue harassing these two professional actors and their fans like they do.

Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press were meant to provide transparency in order to PROTECT the TRUTH about absolutely everything – not LIE to people (especially YOUNG fans) in order to LOWER their quality of life for ILLEGAL profits.

Not ONE of you has a good reason
to not kiss and make up
!!
)*(

SIGN THE PETITION
 for Hollywood Tabloids & Paparazzi to Reform Their
Own Well-Protected Industry of Celebrity Mistreatment or

BRAINSTORM to figure out something else that WILL WORK

Before any of you read any further... I respectfully request that fans start blaming the tabloids & paparazzi for their hate-stirring bs; because I really do NOT want to take this message out into Stephenie Meyer's or EL James' brilliant futures. If you don't know what I mean by that, just check out my other blog about The Twilight Saga.

INTENTIONALLY-damaging articles posted on Hollywood Life JUST in December:

Robert Pattinson's Family Loves FKA Twigs More Than Kristen Stewart
Not only is Robert Pattinson having the best sex of his life with FKA twigs, but his family also loves her more than Kristen Stewart!

Kristen Stewart: Robert Pattinson Punishing Her With FKA Twigs ...
Is Kristen being punished for cheating on Rob with Rupert Sanders in 2012? ... Is Robert Pattinson, 28, using FKA twigs, 26, to get to his ex?

Kristen Stewart V. FKA Twigs: Rob's Ladies Face Off In 'Vogue'
Robert Pattinson sure knows how to pick 'em! Although on the surface Kristen Stewart, 24, and FKA Twigs, 26, don't seem to have much in ...

Robert Pattinson & FKA Twigs: He's Having The Best Sex Of His Life
Dec 19, 2014 ... Kristen Stewart doesn't think that Robert Pattinson will be able to hold FKA twigs' attention for too much longer, but he's sure having fun while it ...

Kristen Stewart Thinks FKA Twigs Will 'Grow Tired' Of Robert Pattinson
Dec 12, 2014 ... Robert Pattinson and FKA Twigs may appear to be over the moon for each other, but Kristen Stewart is convinced that Rob, 28, and FKA twigs, ...

Kristen Stewart Disses Robert Pattinson's Love FKA Twigs: 'She's
Dec 12, 2014 ... Robert Pattinson's new romance with FKA twigs is bringing out the worst in Kristen Stewart! K-Stew just can't understand what her ex sees in ...

Kristen Stewart: Her Big Move To Avoid Robert Pattinson & FKA Twigs
Dec 10, 2014 ... Now that Robert Pattinson has bought a new house close to where Kristen Stewart lives, the actress is making sure she doesn't subject herself ...

Kristen Stewart: Why She Thinks FKA Twigs Is Using Robert Pattinson
Dec 2, 2014 ... We're not surprised that Kristen still has feelings for Rob. We know she still misses ... Kristen Stewart Robert Pattinson Relationship FKA twigs.

Robert Pattinson: Why Kristen Stewart Isn't Sexy To Him Anymore
Dec 1, 2014 ... It's no secret that Rob is totally crazy about FKA twigs, but apparently K-Stew isn't even sexy to him anymore! HollywoodLife.com can tell you ...

PRETTY FANS COMMENTS LEFT BEHIND:

JOYCE Posted at 3:14 PM on December 23, 2014
Kristen will find her man, because she is a beautiful woman. She gave Robert Pattinson every thing he have. She gave him the opportunity to show his talent. when he was down and broke .But he have not come out and told the truth about Kristen cheating on him with a married man. It was a lie, and Robert knows that. am waiting for Robert to stand up and be a man . and tell his part in this lie. It will be Robert doing in ending his career.

Neither Robert NOR Kristen have anything to come clean about – she referred to the situation as a ‘momentary indiscretion’ when it happened; and he reunited with her SOON afterwards because thats ALL it was.
Kristen apologized to absolutely everyone TWICE – the first time was in her original public apology when she added the words, “and everyone this has affected”. NO ONE manipulated Robert into going back to her. He went back because HE was as MUCH as in LOVE with her as she was with HIM; and they were BOTH in PAIN.
Everything that has happened to them has been perfectly normal – with the exception of the tabloids twisting the story so misogynistically to have made so many more obsessed fans SICKER than they already were.

They split for REAL mid-May 2013 after the tabloids & paparazzi continued to hound them incessantly throughout the next year – remember the ‘trial separation’ smear and ‘Valetgate’?

THAT is why they split (and the Katy Perry LIES were probably the last straw - you'll see more about that, below). And until fans start realizing this and STOP trying to blame them both for things they NEVER DID – you’ll always hate them and each other.

sherry Posted at 8:42 PM on December 23, 2014  
@carina–yes Kristen was the strong one. She mothered him and looked after him while he did nothing to protect her from the cruelness that was shown by everyone. He was a user.

bs Posted at 9:51 PM on December 23, 2014  
@Carina, what do you call going back to her cheating a$$ and facing the music of her mistake while she hid out? I don’t think another man would have done that, so stop with the Rob didn’t do anything to protect her. Did she need protecting? I thought all of you say she is a strong woman.

GrewUpWithTwigs Posted at 8:33 PM on December 23, 2014  (Really HL? These kinds of comments are Okay? It sure looks like libel to me...)
Tahliah is MOFO! She is using him for publicity, his money and getting laid! She admits even her dad did not want her! She was a b*tch growing up and continues to be one to this day! Robert Pattinson will have nothing but regret and an STD if he stays with the wh*re! (She is bisexual and has broken up more than one marriage by sleeping with people. He really should be careful who he chooses to f*ck!)

Tracy123 Posted at 6:39 PM on December 23, 2014  
The only one being punished is Rob himself by letting Kristen slip away she “was” and will always be the best thing in his life!!! I think Rob is lost without Kristen he’s trying to make twigs her replacement But it’s like a puzzle and twigs just doesn’t fit .

anonymosme Posted at 7:34 PM on December 26, 2014  (I bet I know who this is... Are you by any chance from Down Under? This lady has been in on the scandal along with many others of us since the beginning - and yeah, many of us are BEYOND irritated with the hate for whatever reason. ;)
OK, all of you KSTEW haters!!!!!!! your all a bunch of back-biting hipocrites!!!!! yeah you are. KSTEW was good enough when she was with Rob, now that their apart and he’s seeing twit, you have NOTHING nice to say about ks!!!!!!!! she WAS the one that got him the twilight part. she is a talented actress, a gorgeous model, and she IS extremely smart, the whole package, I do not believe she would have interest in Rupert had Rob not given her a reason to. and Yes she took very good care of Rob. He should kiss the ground she walks on!!!!!! twit needs to find herself another married man to support her, at the rate SHES going with Rob, he’ll be broke!!!!! I still have hope that Robsten will reunite.

Holidays :) Posted at 11:52 PM on December 23, 2014  
I think we shall see the happily married couple in a few years selling Twigs septum rings and Robs signed Twilight posters on QVC…….He is everything he said he was not. Mugging for the cameras selling his soul to the tabs.

LB Posted at 12:04 AM on December 24, 2014  
@Holidays He is doing no such thing–never, not once. He has said not one word about his relationship, nor has he ever posed for paparazzi pictures. It’s not the man’s fault if his picture gets taken when he’s out in public. His picture is ALWAYS taken, either by fans or paparazzi. His only way to avoid that would be to hide inside 24 hours a day, and no one should have to do that.

Guest Posted at 7:37 AM on December 24, 2014  (Really, 'Guest'... You think Robert should curb his enthusiasm for his new gf (and curtail his movements) just because people like YOU can't stay away from their garbage?)
He could avoid many of his pap pics. He can arrive at a different door than she or leave separately. The ones where they paps follow them, yes, there’s nothing he can do about those but the others he can and hasn’t tried to avoid. He can also cut down on the public PDA. People are merely pointing out that he says one thing and does another. From his own lips he’s trying to avoid being photographed by paps at all costs. Not so. And now he’s going to live down the street from T-shift and across from Beyonce. Heck, they’ll be a pap stationed on the street corner now! Taylor is photographed a lot as is Beyonce in NYC.

@Loui Posted at 7:08 PM on December 24, 2014  
And Rupert left his wife but still didn’t stay with Kristen. That means she worse than Tahlia and sienna both combined in bed. Tahlia had a relationship with a man who cheated on his wife so did Kristen , but Kristen cheated on Rob. How many times must we say this to you Loui so your thick skull could finally absorb it?

keri Posted at 7:51 AM on December 24, 2014  (Many of you are still mad at HL for publishing this crap; but you still have your tabloid-manipulated opinions of Robert and FKA Twigs, don't you? Just because you saw ONE photo of her at a party with her arms crossed and not smiling - along with invasive, massive paparazzi image captures of them.)

exactiy .. how in the world would hl know if rob is having the best sex of his life, how would they know if his family likes her. Its not like they are talking to the tabs. Get a life HL… Twigs is using rob to make a name for herself, and the poor smuck is falling for her hook line and sinking his career. I hope Rob wakes up and sees her the vampid troll she is. If its true that she ruined a marriage then why is she like perfect? and Kristen’s little blimp of indescretion was a travesty, *if it was what it was really. I hope in the new year that HL gets a real source. and I hope Rob wakes up and finds his way back to himself.

Huh! Posted at 11:01 PM on December 23, 2014  
Nose ring disappeared, lol. British Kardashian.
I do not know when he became such a jerk Pattinson to sell your personal life. He is really user and he has first place in lying. He is the king of liars.
He and his gf are tabloid grub and they actually love to papzz photos, fan photos, such pose for tabloids is their life now.

Laura Kovacs NJ/NYC Posted at 10:58 PM on December 23, 2014  
Hey Rob where’s your nose ring ? You really dive bombed your career now. No longer a fan of yours. All I can say is that where will you be in about ten years when Kristen Stewart is up at the podium at the Oscars? Accepting an award for a role and thanking her husband, her family and saying goodnight to her children who are at home watching the broadcast. She is a brilliant, talented actress that you could obviously not handle her strength, determination, and power. Another example of a typical man who needs to be stroked and cant handle a strong women. You go girl !(Kristen) and press on. Don’t look back and grow from this. Hold your held up and don’t be sad. You will find the right gentleman who can except and be a partner to your power ! You go girl ! You are sooooooooooooooo much better without him! Don’t let anyone get you down ! As the youngest of five girls, been there, done that, and at the age of 50 I have learned so much and I still have more to go! Consider this a virtual hug. Take care -be well and keep your head up doll!

Catherine Posted at 2:56 AM on December 24, 2014  (This is me replying to the comment above - NOTICE the comment reply to mine. Thanks for leaving sh*t like THIS UP, HL!!!)

I can’t imagine Robert is going to miss any of you cruel, know-it-all ‘fans’ at all. GO and don’t come back – don’t watch his movies, don’t look up what he’s up to or who he’s dating. Just go.

Loui Posted at 10:17 AM on December 24, 2014  
@Catherine, Why don’t you follow your own advice you miserable b@tch!

Yeah, people hate me because I hate all the HATE that the tabloids intentionally stir up - go figure. I'm just now reading some of these comments, and THIS is LOUI again - you'll see LOTS of very special comments from this person below; and NONE of them nearly as sweet as this one!! Some 'Christian' you are, Loui. No doubt, you're not planning on getting into Heaven, LoL!!

Loui Posted at 3:29 PM on December 24, 2014  
@Caroline,my Dear Friend, I missed you so much, I am so happy to hear from you, how was your first year at Uni, I prayed for you for outstanding grades and success. I was lucky to make a very kind friend @Carina after you lost Internet connection, but hope you will be on board for December Holiday’s, I wish for you so much happiness and only Joy for Christmas, and so much success and only the best for 2015 you deserve the best my Dear Friend, Hugs and Tons of Love to you!

Get a life! Posted at 6:13 PM on December 24, 2014  
Damn @Loui, how many loved filled messages are you gonna send to @caroline?
Call her on the phone why don’t you? Oh I get it, she is just your HWL friend like @MITPUK1.
No REAL! friends then? Damn that’s sad. Damn girl get out and make some real friends.
You are so wrapped up in the internet that you probably forgot to actually live.
Go make real friends. It’s a good thing.

Venus Posted at 8:03 AM on December 26, 2014  
According to my reliable sources, FKA twigs was bragging to her inner circle that” I’m famous in U.S. & I have to suck it up although Rob is like a pop jello in bed “& she misses her bad boy exes.!

@Venus Posted at 11:02 AM on December 27, 2014  
Were your sources in that minicooper with Rupert Sanders and kristen,because they sound like dysfuctional armpit licking @$$holes!!! And so do you…

Hilary Posted at 4:57 AM on December 26, 2014  
I am not surprised that they like piglet better – they probably feel sorry for the fugly thing!

Aloha Posted at 6:08 PM on December 25, 2014  
Twigs never cheated on Rob. Kristen DID. Good Rob left her.

Margaret in the pink UK /// one Posted at 8:16 AM on December 27, 2014  
Nor did Kristen from early 2009 to mid 2012 and there was no affair even Liberty said that
When Twiglets been with Rob 3 and a half years then you silly child u can make that statement

@Mitpuk Posted at 11:08 AM on December 27, 2014  
it was an affair.thats why the relationship stumbled into nothingness! You should be ashamed Margaret for saying kristen did not cheat from 2009 to 2012 what the hell are you saying here? Even if she cheated one night she still cheated , even if she kissed rupert and what everelse and realised two hours later that she made a mistake then she had a short affair BUT an affair NONETHA LESS!Grow up

Joyce Posted at 5:10 AM on December 27, 2014  
@annonymose. Kristen Stewart did not have affair with Rupert Sanders. The whold was a hoax. Look at the video ==LIBERTY DID IT AN INSIDER TOLD. And ask Google.com Search= = IS KRISTEN STEWART CHEATING PHITOS FAKE. . It was done to help Robert ans Liberty Ross. Read all about it when you ask Google

FYI - AGAIN. Kristen did NOT CHEAT with Rupert Sanders... Read all about those details here: http://hub.me/aj0JF This is what was wrong with the 'scandal' from the beginning; the papz AND tabloids KNEW what it was, but that wouldn't be NEARLY as big of a money-maker. So they INTENTIONALLY TWISTED those images (not Robert or Liberty or Rupert) and the story to make it appear that she had actually been cheating instead of fending off her predatory boss. Rupert practically forced that kiss on her while she was trying to fend him off without losing her job (much like Jacob did to Bella - except Jacob was a love-sick fool; and Rupert Sanders was a married man who shouldn't have had his lips anywhere NEAR her). It is a NORMAL situation that all kinds of girls and women find themselves in EVERY DAY; and the way the tabloids have spun things SO MANY TIMES is NOT legal NOR right; NOR is it 'entertaining'.

bluemoon Posted at 11:30 AM on December 26, 2014  
Rob does not love women, he is bi, all the people he as dated were either gay, o bi,
Kristen was business partner.

@@ bluemoon Posted at 2:23 AM on December 27, 2014  This comment actually started out good; but you all have to BLAME SOMEONE instead of the actual people you need to be blaming.
Kirsten was not his business partner. She really loved him. She loved him enough to abandon her dignity and privacy and throw herself at his feet immediately after the pics came out. She said he was the most important thing in her life– the person she admired and respected the most. She declared her love for him o the whole world. Of course, that was before she found out that he’d been cheating on her all along.

@ @ louie Posted at 3:52 AM on December 26, 2014  
Rupert never had a chance to find out how Kristen was in bed. All he ever got from her was a kiss. Liberty herself said she belives it never went anay farther than that.
Rob, on the other hand, lived with Kristen for four years. He had several affairs during that time, but he kept coming back to her. She didn’t know he was cheating, until the Katy Perry affair, when it was so obvious she could no longer ignore it,and she kicked him out. Yoo saw it happen–the truck ride with trash bags.

@ Jaln Posted at 4:00 AM on December 25, 2014 (Gosh, you ALMOST have the whole story right, LoL!) Jaln, I am a Kristen fan. I am not only an English speaker, I was an English major. My writing has won awards and has been published as editorial pieces in several large newspapers.
It’s you who are misinformed. Kristen did not cheat. That would have require sex, which did not happen. All she did was kiss the guy once and allow him to put his arms around for a few minutes, standing up, outdoors, on a busy residential street. Rob only left her for about ten days afterward. Then they reunited and lived together for the better part of a year.
The momentary indiscretion occurred on July 17. They reunited in August, and lived together until May 19th of the next year when SHE THREW HIM OUT for cheating with Katy Perry. You saw it–the truck ride with trash bags. He came to her house directly from spending the night with Katy, and it was to Katy’s house he returned with his trash bags–and he stayed there for about two months.
I know that there are SO many fans who blame Katy Perry for Kristen & Robert’s breakup because that was one of the many rumor-lies at the time. But the only thing Katy probably did to irritate the situation was HELP Robert IGNORE Kristen's pleas to STOP hanging around with her ENTIRE CAMP WITHOUT HER so that the tabloids would stop with that specific LIE. He wasn't going out on dates with 'just Katy'. Robert has been friends with Katy Perry since 2008 (what DOES Katy have to say about her relationship with Robert?) shortly after he arrived in Hollywood. It was a perfectly NORMAL thing for Robert to be doing.

Hollywood's TABLOIDS & PAPARAZZI are the most likely reason for Rob & Kris to have split up; NOT because she 'cheated' on him. Am I mad at Robert for probably giving up before Kristen did? How can any of us be with all the HATE that has ALWAYS swarmed around them both? Kristen was probably the one keeping his interest in focus for so long before she finally gave up, too. They BOTH deserve a HUGE break from their fans who supposedly love them.

guest Posted at 3:23 AM on December 24, 2014  (Yes, the tabloids had your panties all up in knots during that time, didn't they 'guest'? And you were one of the many fools believing it - THAT is why Kristen got mad at him for hanging out with Katy too much. Because of the tabloids saying stuff that people like YOU will believe.)
Well then it’s certainly a co-incidence that he was photographed leaving Kristen’s house the morning of May 19th, with all his stuff packed in trash bags half an hour after he arrived directly from spending the night with Katy Perry–immediately after spending the weekend with her in Las Vegas (there are pics) and after spending the week squiring her around New York. (He didn’t even bother to move from Katy’s hotel to Kristen’s hotel when Kristen arrived for the Met Ball).
It was Kristen who threw him out, it was he who had an affair, not Kristen, and it was she who lost trust. And this was not the first affair he had had during their relationship, but one of a string of infidelities–real cheating, not just a kiss.

IF Robert didn't bother to leave Katy Perry's hotel in NY - that probably meant that Rob & Kris broke up WHILE they were in New York!! It does not mean that Robert was sleeping with Katy - they were SURROUNDED by their friends like they always WERE.

And, EVEN IF Robert spent the night at Katy's place, she has a BIG HOUSE with more than one bedroom. Again, Rob & Kris had probably already broken up by that time and didn't WANT to spend anymore nights together. Katy was being a good friend to Robert; but NOT being a good friend by encouraging his antics with her (especially since she is a celebrity, herself). However, I'm sure her heart was in the right place. She was no-doubt trying to help him escape the crap.

Unfortunately, Rob & Kris would probably have ended up splitting eventually, anyway - with the way the tabloids & papz NEVER stop. Very FEW couples could have survived the gossip-bombardment on their relationship.

Ulfur Posted at 7:28 PM on December 23, 2014  
Sheesh… Kristen and Rob were a showmance. They didn’t even have to act like a couple. Summit PR and obsessed fangirls took care of that and kept the fauxmance alive. “Becoming a couple” at the start of a multi-billion dollar franchise and then “breaking up” one month after it ending, should make this obvious for anyone with half a brain. If Rob and Twigs are happy, good for them. Kristen also seems happy, living with her lesbian “BFF” for over a year.

Guest Posted at 3:11 AM on December 24, 2014  
They didn’t become a couple at the start of the franchise, and it wasn’t a billion dollar franchise when they were making the first movie, it was an indie–a little indie, or so everyone thought. They still weren’t a couple in Italy while they were making New Moon. There’s a video of Ashley Green happily babbling, “In Italy, Kristen and I and Dakota all dated Rob. Rob really has lips.”
It wasn’t until June, 2,009, a year after the first twilight film wrapped, that Kristen and Michael split up. Soon thereafter, Rob and Kristen moved into their suite at the top of the “Couve”. She had resisted him and tried to stay with her long-time beau for more than a year. Filming wrapped on BD 1 and 2 in April 2,011. Part two came out in November 2012. Robert was photographed moving his stuff out of Kristen’s house May 19, 2013. So their getting together and their splitting up didn’t correspond to the beginning and end of Twilight at all.

JOYCE Posted at 6:18 AM on December 25, 2014  (Just read the article link left in the next comment, Joyce. We know Rob 'had a crush' on Kristen - that doesn't mean they had a romance going until later. Rob confirmed their relationship in 2011; and Kristen confirmed it in 2012.)

@guest you do not know what you are talking about , Robert told the world in 2008 that he had a crush before he met her , When he saw her in the movie INTO THE WILD, Go to youtube to the behind the scene videos 2007 to 2008 And stop telling lies on Robert. You can not find one video on what you are talking about

Catherine Posted at 3:16 AM on December 24, 2014  
Wow, I’m actually somewhat IMPRESSED, Guest – well done!!
There are actually also many OTHER reasons beyond that as to why their romance was NOT a showmance or a promance or a fake up.
Read all about it here: hub.me/aj0JF

jen Posted at 3:48 AM on December 25, 2014  
Rob’s family must be so relieved that finally their son let the cheater go

Loui Posted at 11:57 AM on December 25, 2014  
Yes I agree a whore in place of K is a improvement cause now they don’t have to worry were he will get the white powder from, the Dark Twig is keeping him supplied and under her thumb, every mother’s and sisters dream! LOL

Loui Posted at 4:08 AM on December 26, 2014  
Twigs the Darky is a whore and Fu…… Ugly!

katie Posted at 10:23 PM on December 24, 2014  
obviously Rob’s family loves Twigs more. She loves their son and makes him happy.
They must hate kscrew for cheating on their son

Chris Posted at 12:54 AM on December 25, 2014  
@Katie. I think so too. There’s no reason his fam would prefer The Cheater.

Loui Posted at 4:14 AM on December 26, 2014  
@Katie, Do you mean healthy as in pasty white with a skeleton head, dirty and stinking and always drunk, is that your way of being healthy and can’t he get his clothes dry cleaned, is he sleeping on the sidewalks, WOW you must live a terribly impoverished life to think Rob looks healthy, remember that guy is ONLY 28 years old, but different strokes to different folks!

RPLOVESKS Posted at 7:43 PM on December 24, 2014  
Dont believe this dips**t HL story. HL create it especially for those haters @ RP & KS. Honestly, they are married with a baby girl. Please respect them. They are family now. All those twigs pic is very very OLD pictures. Pics has being made up & photo editing by the stupid media. Remember, bad media & bad paparazi, they are evil & loves to digs your viewing so that they earn more money from their link

Here's the link that debunk's HKN Haven's baby conspiracy theory - along with all the other ones they've been developing since FKA Twigs entered the picture.

JOYCE Posted at 9:30 AM on December 24, 2014  
Examiner say Robert family want Twigs.gone. HWL is lying. Robert world family say Twigs is a bad influence on Robert. They are putting all Robert`s drinking on twigs. Robert family want him back with Kristen. And I don`t think Kristen want him back. I think that is why Robert did not go home for Christmas this year. And twigs family is in London too.

Catherine Posted at 12:43 PM on December 24, 2014  
The Examiner says one thing and HL says another… BOTH are LIES, but you’ve CHOSEN to believe one of them as the truth because it’s the one you want to be true.
Come on, Joyce…

Jaln Posted at 7:47 AM on December 24, 2014  
What was Kristen thinking with when she was having sex all around town with that married director Rupert Sanders?

IKnowTahliah Posted at 9:05 PM on December 23, 2014  
ROBERT’S FAMILY IS A BUNCH OF F*CKING IDIOTS if they do not see how Tahliah is using him! She wants the publicity his name brings, his money to finance her stupid career and his d*ck while she looks for another girl to f*ck! (She has done so many times!) The girl is a user! She has broken up more than one marriage! Tahliah is not even wanted by her own family – her dad does not even claim her and spent years distancing himself from her Two Week old sh*t! Get a life Tahliah and stop ruining others! If the Pattinson’s like they deserve the destruction and ruin she will bring this “family”!

Loui Posted at 3:04 AM on December 24, 2014  
@IKnowTahliah, Thank you for the info, you’re a darling and I believe you!

Alyson Posted at 8:56 PM on December 23, 2014  
Yes,she is really creepy looking! Kristen is much prettier.I guess there is no accounting for taste.She must have something we don’t see.

bs Posted at 9:41 PM on December 23, 2014  
@Alyson, she does, she has Rob.

Here are a few good suggestions for tabloids to be writing
about if they just HAVE to drag Kristen into Robert’s new romance:

Kristen Stewart Supportive of Robert Pattinson and FKA Twigs:
but HATES the Massive (Rape-like) Paparazzi Image-Captures of
them together that she is so familiar with because she knows
how it feels as well as how hard they are to ignore for very long.

FKA Twigs Manages to Capture the Attention (and heart?) of
Heartbroken Twilight Hearthrob, Robert Pattinson:
Kristen Stewart stays out of sight for awhile while fans
adjust to seeing him with his unusual new girlfriend
- but, a couple pics of her out in about in LA do not
portray a heartbroken or angry ex-girlfriend

Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart, Who Have Remained Friends
Since Breaking Up in May 2013 - Attend Hollywood Film Awards;
While Once Again, Putting on a United Front to Avoid Each Other
in order to Eliminate Paparazzi Money-Making Images of them
together and Keep Tabloid Speculation about them to a Minimum

Rookie of the Year: FKA Twigs
(Woops, this is actually a real one – there are some. ;)



Not ONE of you has a good reason
to not kiss and make up
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In a nutshell, this also contains the ‘cheating’ scandal summary with
links to absolutely everything; along with the reasons why Rob & Kris
ACTUALLY broke up; and HOW ’50 Shades of Grey’ was inspired
by Twilight. I can’t make things more condensed than this.

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